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Tian Xi: the minor star opposite Hong Luan

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Tian Xi sits opposite Hong Luan, six branches away and never in its palace. Six opposite palace-name pairs, natal Tian Xi with decadal Yun Xi and yearly Liu Xi, and the book's other "Tian Xi" spirit.

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Tian Xi (天喜) has no count of its own: its spot is the palace opposite Hong Luan, always six branches away and never in the same palace, and it appears once in each of the natal, decadal and yearly layers, while another "Tian Xi" in the book belongs to Tian Xing.

  • Wherever Hong Luan sits, Tian Xi is in the palace straight across, always six branches away, so the two stars can never share a palace.
  • Among the twelve palace names, opposites pair up in only six ways: Life and Travel, Siblings and Friends, Partner and Career, Children and Property, Wealth and Wellbeing, Health and Parents; every chart lands on exactly one pair.
  • The decadal layer calls the star Yun Xi and the yearly layer Liu Xi, each recounted from the current limit or year; the "Tian Xi spirit" in the Tian Xing poem is a different use of the name, not this star.
Eighteen seconds: Hong Luan and Tian Xi six branches apart, how each layer counts once, and three checks: Hong Luan's palace, the palace across, and the layer.

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Wherever Hong Luan sits, Tian Xi is across from it

Tian Xi has no count of its own. After giving Hong Luan's position, the placement verse adds one clause: Tian Xi is in the opposite palace, not a step off. How the same clause is used on the BaZi side is in Tian Xi: the palace opposite Hong Luan; here the question is which palace names it lands on in a Zi Wei chart.

A six-row table of opposite palace names: with Hong Luan in Life, Tian Xi is in Travel; Siblings pairs with Friends, Partner with Career, Children with Property, Wealth with Wellbeing and Health with Parents; each row also holds the other way round.Open the full-size diagram

Comparison sketch: each row is a pair of palace names that face each other; with Hong Luan in one, Tian Xi is in the other, and the reverse holds too.

Opposite means six branches away, straight across the ring. The twelve palace names run in a fixed order around the circle, so names six places apart form natural pairs, six in all: Life with Travel, Siblings with Friends, Partner with Career, Children with Property, Wealth with Wellbeing, Health with Parents. Whichever palace name holds Hong Luan, Tian Xi is in its partner name, and every chart lands on exactly one pair.

A chart for someone born in 1995Hong LuanDragon, Siblingscount sixStraightacrosssix branches onlandsTian XiDog, FriendsSiblings and Friends are one of the six palace-name pairs
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A chart for someone born in 1995Hong LuanDragon, Siblingscount sixStraightacrosssix branches onlandsTian XiDog, FriendsSiblings and Friends are one of the six palace-name pairs
In this chart Hong Luan is on the Dragon in the Siblings palace; six branches across is the Dog, the Friends palace, where Tian Xi sits.

Opposite means looking across, not sitting in

Hong Luan and Tian Xi are never in one palace. When reading the palace that holds Hong Luan, Tian Xi is across the way and takes part through the opposite-palace relation instead of sitting there; each star's own position is recorded separately, and the difference between opposite, same-palace and flanking is set out in opposite, flanking and converging palaces.

Same palaceone shared branchNian Jie and Feng Ge: every year branchHong Luan and Tian Xi: neverOpposite palacessix branches apartHong Luan and Tian Xi: every year branchEach position recorded on its ownTwo pairs of stars can relate to each other in entirely different ways
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Same palaceone shared branchNian Jie and Feng Ge: every year branchHong Luan and Tian Xi: neverOpposite palacessix branches apartHong Luan and Tian Xi: every year branchEach position recorded on its ownTwo pairs of stars can relate to each other in entirely different ways
Nian Jie and Feng Ge always share a palace, while Hong Luan and Tian Xi are always opposite; both relations come from how the verses are written.

Each layer counts once: Tian Xi, Yun Xi, Liu Xi

The same rule is run again in the time layers. The decadal layer uses the branch of the current ten-year limit and renames Hong Luan and Tian Xi as Yun Luan (运鸾) and Yun Xi (运喜); the yearly layer uses the yearly branch and renames them Liu Luan and Liu Xi; the finer monthly layer repeats the count once more as Yue Luan and Yue Xi, but here only the first two time layers are shown. One woman's chart from 1995 shows it (Metal Four bureau, limits from age four, running forward). Its first six limits place Yun Luan and Yun Xi like this:

Limit (age)Limit pillarYun LuanYun Xi4 to 13Xin SiDogDragon14 to 23Ren WuRoosterRabbit24 to 33Gui WeiMonkeyTiger34 to 43Jia ShenGoatOx44 to 53Yi YouHorseRat54 to 63Bing XuSnakePigThe limit branch moves on one per decade while Yun Luan and Yun Xi move back one; Yun Xi stays opposite Yun Luan
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Limit (age)Limit pillarYun LuanYun Xi4 to 13Xin SiDogDragon14 to 23Ren WuRoosterRabbit24 to 33Gui WeiMonkeyTiger34 to 43Jia ShenGoatOx44 to 53Yi YouHorseRat54 to 63Bing XuSnakePigThe limit branch moves on one per decade while Yun Luan and Yun Xi move back one; Yun Xi stays opposite Yun Luan
In this chart the first six limit branches run from the Snake to the Dog, Yun Xi goes back from the Dragon to the Pig and Yun Luan from the Dog to the Snake.

Each time the limit branch advances one step, Yun Xi steps back one, so it changes spot every ten years, while natal Tian Xi is computed from the birth-year branch and never moves. Laid on top of each other:

One chart, three layers of XiNatalTian Xi: Dogrecountby limitGui WeilimitYun Xi: Tigerrecountby year2026,Bing WuLiu Xi: RabbitThree spots from three different inputs, not one star on the move
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One chart, three layers of XiNatalTian Xi: Dogrecountby limitGui WeilimitYun Xi: Tigerrecountby year2026,Bing WuLiu Xi: RabbitThree spots from three different inputs, not one star on the move
In one chart, natal Tian Xi is on the Dog, the Gui Wei limit puts Yun Xi on the Tiger, and the Bing Wu year 2026 puts Liu Xi on the Rabbit.

One branch can carry different palace names in different layers too: the Tiger is the Children palace in the natal chart but the Health palace in this limit layer. Read Yun Xi and Liu Xi with that layer's own palace names rather than copying the natal ones.

Another "Tian Xi spirit" in the book

The poem on Tian Xing in volume 1 of the Zi Wei Dou Shu Quan Shu (紫微斗数全书) opens by giving that star a second name: when it sits in its temple position, the strongest grade, it is called the Tian Xi spirit. The poem goes on to name the Tiger, Rooster, Dog and Rabbit as those places. The title belongs to Tian Xing and shares only a name with the Tian Xi placed opposite Hong Luan; Tian Xing's own placement is covered in Tian Xing: counted from the Rooster, eight palaces from Tian Yao.

Tian Xi in the Hong Luan versevolume 2Fixed by the palace opposite Hong LuanTurns through all twelve branchesPresent in every chart"Tian Xi spirit" in the Tian Xing poemvolume 1Tian Xing's name in its temple positionThe poem names Tiger, Rooster, Dog, RabbitNot a new starOne name, two different things in two places
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Tian Xi in the Hong Luan versevolume 2Fixed by the palace opposite Hong LuanTurns through all twelve branchesPresent in every chart"Tian Xi spirit" in the Tian Xing poemvolume 1Tian Xing's name in its temple positionThe poem names Tiger, Rooster, Dog, RabbitNot a new starOne name, two different things in two places
The volume 2 Tian Xi is fixed by the palace opposite Hong Luan; the volume 1 "Tian Xi spirit" is what Tian Xing is called in its temple position; the poem then names the Tiger, Rooster, Dog and Rabbit.
  1. Find Hong Luan first

    Look up its branch and palace name in its own article: the year gives the branch and Life gives the name.

  2. Then count across

    Six branches on from Hong Luan is Tian Xi's branch; for the palace name take the partner name.

  3. Name the layer

    Tian Xi for the natal chart, Yun Xi for a decade, Liu Xi for a year, and each layer renumbers its palace names.

Three short questions

Question one

Hong Luan is in the Health palace: which palace has Tian Xi?

Health pairs with Parents, so Tian Xi is in the Parents palace.

Question two

In a Rat year Hong Luan is on the Rabbit: where is Tian Xi?

Six branches on from the Rabbit is the Rooster, so Tian Xi is on the Rooster.

Question three

The limit branch advances one: which way does Yun Xi move?

Back by one. Yun Xi stays opposite Yun Luan, and Yun Luan steps back each time, so Yun Xi does too.

Its partner star is covered in Hong Luan: one palace back per year; the inputs of the other minor stars are in the full table of minor-star inputs.

Questions readers ask next

Can Hong Luan and Tian Xi land in the same palace?

No. Tian Xi is fixed in the palace opposite Hong Luan, six branches away, so they are always in two different palaces. The pair that always does share a palace is another one, Nian Jie and Feng Ge, because their two verses are written the same way.

Why are there Tian Xi, Yun Xi and Liu Xi on the chart?

Each layer counts once: natal Tian Xi from the birth-year branch, Yun Xi from the branch of the current decade, Liu Xi from the branch of the year. The rule is the same and the input differs, so the last two move with the decade and the year while natal Tian Xi stays put.

Is the book's "Tian Xi spirit" the same as the Tian Xi on the chart?

No. The Tian Xing poem in the Complete Book says that a Tian Xing in its temple position is called the Tian Xi spirit; the star on the chart is fixed by the palace opposite Hong Luan. The name is shared and the things it points to are different.

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  1. 維基文庫・紫微斗數全書・卷二:安紅鸞天喜訣 ↗
  2. 維基文庫・紫微斗數全書・卷一:諸星問答論(問天刑星所主若何) ↗
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