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Ba Zuo: the star that mirrors San Tai

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Ba Zuo, San Tai in reverse
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Ba Zuo is counted backward from the You Bi palace, with the first day on that palace. The mirror axis shared with San Tai, when the two share a palace or face each other, and the five places the Quan Shu says "Ba Zuo".

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Ba Zuo and San Tai are a pair: San Tai counts the days forward from the Zuo Fu palace and Ba Zuo counts them backward from the You Bi palace. For one month and day the two stars always mirror each other across the line joining the Ox and Goat palaces, and they share a palace only when they land on that line.

  • Ba Zuo sits at the Rat palace counted back (month plus day) places; like San Tai it depends only on the sum of month and day, in the opposite direction.
  • The number of palaces between San Tai and Ba Zuo cycles every six values of the sum: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 0; remainder 5 means the same palace and remainder 2 means directly opposite.
  • The book uses "Ba Zuo" in the placement verse, in the line naming six palaces the Eight Seats, in verses on being honored among them, in the phrase joining it to San Tai and in a Tai Yang line on the Children palace, without saying how these relate.
Eighteen seconds: three ways San Tai and Ba Zuo can relate, how the days are counted back from the You Bi palace, and three questions before reading.

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The You Bi palace as day 1, counted backward to the birth day

Ba Zuo (八座) is San Tai (三台) in reverse. San Tai counts the days forward from the Zuo Fu (左辅) palace, and Ba Zuo counts them backward from the You Bi palace.

Juan 2 puts the two stars in one verse. Its Ba Zuo half also puts the first day on the palace where You Bi sits and only changes the direction; its last words are "counting backward to the birth day, place it there".

Two-column comparison: San Tai starts from the Zuo Fu palace as day 1, runs forward and lands (month plus day minus two) places on from the Dragon palace; Ba Zuo starts from the You Bi palace as day 1, runs backward and lands (month plus day) places back from the Rat palace; the two stars are mirror images across the Ox and Goat palaces.Open the full-size diagram

Comparison sketch: how each star is counted and the formulas for where it lands; the landings match iztro 2.6.0.

You Bi (右弼) itself stands on the Dog palace for the first lunar month and steps back one palace per month, so the starting point of Ba Zuo is set by the month too; see You Bi. Put the two steps together: You Bi is the Dog palace counted back (month minus one) places, and Ba Zuo goes back a further (day minus one) places. The Dog palace is two ahead of the Rat palace, so the total is the Rat palace counted back (month plus day) places.

Lunar month 5, day 15Day 1on You Bi, HorsebackCountto 15back 14 palacesstopBa Zuolands on DragonLunar month 5, day 13Day 1on You Bi, HorsebackCountto 13back 12 palacesstopBa Zuoback on HorseTwelve palaces back is the start again; days 1, 13 and 25 share a palace
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Lunar month 5, day 15Day 1on You Bi, HorsebackCountto 15back 14 palacesstopBa Zuolands on DragonLunar month 5, day 13Day 1on You Bi, HorsebackCountto 13back 12 palacesstopBa Zuoback on HorseTwelve palaces back is the start again; days 1, 13 and 25 share a palace
Lunar month 5 day 15 counts back from the Horse palace for fourteen palaces and Ba Zuo lands on Dragon; day 13 counts back twelve and returns to the Horse palace where You Bi sits.

A fold: San Tai and Ba Zuo face each other across the Ox-Goat line

One goes forward and the other backward, so for each step the month-plus-day sum goes up, San Tai advances one palace and Ba Zuo retreats one. On the ring of branches the two always sit symmetrically, with the line through the Ox and Goat palaces as the axis. On a chart for month 5, day 15, San Tai is on Dog and Ba Zuo on Dragon, a pair; for month 4, day 5 the sum is 9, San Tai is on Pig and Ba Zuo on Rabbit, another pair.

RatOxTigRabDraSnaHorGoaMonRooDogPigM5 D15M4 D5Ox-Goatmirror axisPurple marks the axis; each line joins San Tai and Ba Zuo for one date
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RatOxTigRabDraSnaHorGoaMonRooDogPigM5 D15M4 D5Ox-Goatmirror axisPurple marks the axis; each line joins San Tai and Ba Zuo for one date
Ring of the twelve branches: Ox and Goat are the mirror axis; for month 5 day 15 San Tai is on Dog and Ba Zuo on Dragon, for month 4 day 5 San Tai is on Pig and Ba Zuo on Rabbit, and each pair mirrors across the Ox-Goat axis.

The whole correspondence follows, each row labeled by what is left when month plus day is divided by 12:

Remainder San Tai Ba Zuo Remainder San Tai Ba Zuo
0 Tiger Rat 6 Monkey Horse
1 Rabbit Pig 7 Rooster Snake
2 Dragon Dog 8 Dog Dragon
3 Snake Rooster 9 Pig Rabbit
4 Horse Monkey 10 Rat Tiger
5 Goat Goat 11 Ox Ox

When they share a palace, and when they face each other

The number of palaces between the two stars is twice the sum plus two, and every six more in the sum brings a full lap, so it runs in cycles of six by the remainder of the sum divided by 6: remainder 0 gives a gap of 2 palaces, 1 gives 4, 2 gives 6 (directly across), 3 gives 8, 4 gives 10 and 5 gives 12, which is the same palace.

DateM1 D4M2 D21M10 D19Sum52329Remainder mod 125115San Tai, Ba Zuoboth Goatboth Oxboth GoatThree same-palace examples: the remainder is 5 mod 6 and the place is only Ox or Goat
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DateM1 D4M2 D21M10 D19Sum52329Remainder mod 125115San Tai, Ba Zuoboth Goatboth Oxboth GoatThree same-palace examples: the remainder is 5 mod 6 and the place is only Ox or Goat
Month 1 day 4, month 2 day 21 and month 10 day 19 have sums 5, 23 and 29, each leaving remainder 5 when divided by 6, so San Tai and Ba Zuo share a palace: Goat, Ox and Goat.

The shared palace can only be Ox or Goat: a remainder of 5 mod 12 gives the Goat palace and 11 gives the Ox palace, which are exactly the two points of the axis.

"Ba Zuo" in the book: five places

Body, Life, Travel, Wealth, Career and Wellbeing: these six palaces are named the Eight Seats.

Quan Shu, juan 3: essentials on discussing the stars, our translation

Five ways the book writes "Ba Zuo"

The placement verse
Juan 2 writes Ba Zuo in the same verse as San Tai and speaks of position only, which is the count above.
"Six palaces named the Eight Seats"
This juan 3 line gives the joint name to six places, body, Life, Travel, Wealth, Career and Wellbeing; what follows is a conditional verdict and is not paraphrased here.
"Honored among the Eight Seats"
Two verse lines in juan 1 use the phrase, one of them reading "Zuo Fu and Wen Chang meeting auspicious stars, honored among the Eight Seats", and both speak of standing.
"The three terraces and eight seats"
In the juan 1 Zi Wei entry, "Kui, Yue and the San Tai star meeting auspicious stars, then it is the three terraces and eight seats" joins the two words; two further passages, on cleverness and on military office, list San Tai and Ba Zuo among other stars as star names.
Ba Zuo in the Children palace
The juan 1 entry on Tai Yang (太阳) also has a line on Ba Zuo in the Children palace, which the book calls the palace of sons and daughters; it too leads into a conditional verdict and is not paraphrased here.
  1. Find the You Bi palace first

    It is on the Dog palace for the first lunar month and steps back one palace each month.

  2. Then count the days backward

    The first day sits on You Bi, and the birth day is (day minus one) palaces back; twelve palaces back return to the start.

  3. Last, compare with San Tai

    Number the branches from Rat as 0: the two stars' numbers always add up to 2 after dividing by 12, and they can coincide only on Ox or Goat.

Two problems for the pair

Facing?

Born on the 10th day of the 4th lunar month: where do San Tai and Ba Zuo land?

4 plus 10 is 14, remainder 2: San Tai on Dragon and Ba Zuo on Dog, directly across from each other.

Find the month

Ba Zuo is on the Tiger palace and the birth day is the 15th: which lunar month?

The Tiger palace stands for a sum leaving remainder 10; 10 minus the birth day 15 is -5, and adding 12 gives 7: the seventh month.

The other star counted from Zuo Fu is San Tai; once both stars are back on a whole chart, the palaces opposite and trine to them matter too, and the three sides and four directions explains how.

Questions readers ask next

Are San Tai and Ba Zuo always in opposite palaces?

No. The number of palaces between them runs 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 0 over each six values of the sum, and only a gap of 6 puts them directly across; a gap of 0 is the same palace.

San Tai and Ba Zuo share a palace on my chart. Is it a special chart?

It is just the result of month plus day leaving remainder 5 when divided by 6, which happens on about one birth day in six, and the shared palace is always Ox or Goat.

Are "San Tai and Ba Zuo" together a single star?

No. They are two stars on a chart, one counted from Zuo Fu and one from You Bi. In the book, "the three terraces and eight seats" is a phrase that joins two words, which is a separate matter from the two stars sharing a palace.

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Sources & references

  1. 維基文庫・紫微斗數全書・卷二:安三台八座二星訣 ↗
  2. 維基文庫・紫微斗數全書・卷三:談星要論(六宮名曰八座) ↗
  3. 維基文庫・紫微斗數全書・卷一:紫微星條與格局詩句 ↗
  4. iztro・星曜系统(十四主星名单与星曜亮度表) ↗

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