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Tian Shou: counted from the Body palace

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Tian Shou: from Body, count the year
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Tian Shou sits at the Body palace plus the birth-year branch number. A ring, a table and four charts show that the Body palace has six possible names and that the gap to Tian Cai depends on the birth hour alone.

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There are two starting points to trace for Tian Shou: it is counted from the Body palace by the year branch, and the Body palace itself comes from the birth hour.

  • The start is the Body palace and the number of steps is the year-branch number: a Rat year counts 0 and Tian Shou sits in the Body palace itself.
  • The Body palace lies "2 × hour number" steps after Life, so it falls under one of six names: Life, Wellbeing, Career, Travel, Wealth or Partner.
  • The gap between Tian Shou and Tian Cai equals the gap between the Body and Life palaces, so it depends on the hour alone: for Rat and Horse hours the two stars share a palace.
Eighteen seconds on Tian Shou: how the hour sets the Body palace, the landing point counted from it by year branch, and three questions to ask before reading.

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The start moves to the Body palace

There are two starting points to trace for Tian Shou (天寿): it is counted out from the Body palace, once for each step of the birth-year branch, and the Body palace itself is fixed by the birth hour.

A ring of the twelve palace names laid out from Life in the direction of the branches; Life, Wellbeing, Career, Travel, Wealth and Partner are highlighted as the only places the Body palace can fall, and Tian Shou starts from one of them.Open the full-size diagram

Ring sketch: the order of the palace names is the usual twelve-palace order, and the six possible places of the Body palace follow from the engine's rule for placing the Body palace. The source for Tian Shou is still to be verified.

The Body palace is not a thirteenth palace; it borrows one of the twelve. The ring lists the twelve names from Life along the branches, and the six colored ones are where the Body palace can sit: Life, Wellbeing, Career, Travel, Wealth and Partner. The start of Tian Shou can only be one of those six. How the two starts differ is covered in Life and Body palaces compared.

The method has the same shape as Tian Cai, with the start changed from Life to Body. Work through the chart of 18 September 2003, Tiger hour:

18 Sep 2003, Tiger hour · Gui-Wei yearBodyPig · 11Goatyearnumber 7add11+7=18remainder 6moduloHorsepalaceSiblingsNumbering starts at the Rat palace; the name comes from counting out from Life, and Horse is 11 steps after Life here
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18 Sep 2003, Tiger hour · Gui-Wei yearBodyPig · 11Goatyearnumber 7add11+7=18remainder 6moduloHorsepalaceSiblingsNumbering starts at the Rat palace; the name comes from counting out from Life, and Horse is 11 steps after Life here
Chart of 18 September 2003, Tiger hour, Gui-Wei year: the Body palace is on Pig, number 11, the Goat-year number is 7, the sum is 18 with remainder 6, and Tian Shou is on the Horse palace, which is Siblings.

How the hour fixes the Body palace

The Body palace lies "2 × hour number" steps after Life, with the Rat hour as 0 and the result taken modulo 12. Doubling has a direct consequence: the step count is always even, so the Body palace can only fall 0, 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10 steps after Life. That gives exactly six names:

Birth hourBody after Life byBody palace nameRat/Horse0 stepsLifeOx/Goat2 stepsWellbeingTiger/Monkey4 stepsCareerRabbit/Rooster6 stepsTravelDragon/Dog8 stepsWealthSnake/Pig10 stepsPartnerThe Horse hour is number 6 and 2×6 = 12, remainder 0, so it shares a name with the Rat hour
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Birth hourBody after Life byBody palace nameRat/Horse0 stepsLifeOx/Goat2 stepsWellbeingTiger/Monkey4 stepsCareerRabbit/Rooster6 stepsTravelDragon/Dog8 stepsWealthSnake/Pig10 stepsPartnerThe Horse hour is number 6 and 2×6 = 12, remainder 0, so it shares a name with the Rat hour
The Body palace for six hour pairs: Rat and Horse 0 steps, Life; Ox and Goat 2 steps, Wellbeing; Tiger and Monkey 4 steps, Career; Rabbit and Rooster 6 steps, Travel; Dragon and Dog 8 steps, Wealth; Snake and Pig 10 steps, Partner.

This table looks at neither the birth month nor the year. When the birth month moves the Life palace, the Body palace moves with it and the gap between them stays the same, so names counted out from Life depend on the hour alone.

How many steps apart the two stars are: the hour decides

Tian Cai is counted from Life and Tian Shou from Body, each by the year-branch number. Under one year branch, the extra steps Tian Shou takes beyond Tian Cai equal the extra steps the Body palace takes beyond Life, which is 2 × the hour number. Four charts bear it out:

18 Sep 2003, Tiger hourGui-Wei yearLife Goat · Body PigTian Cai Tiger · Tian Shou HorseGap 4 = 2×29 Mar 1996, Rabbit hourBing-Zi yearLife Pig · Body SnakeTian Cai Pig · Tian Shou SnakeGap 6 = 2×323 Nov 1988, Dog hourWu-Chen yearLife Ox · Body RoosterTian Cai Snake · Tian Shou OxGap 8 = 20, rem. 85 Jan 1991, Rat hourGeng-Wu yearLife Rat · Body RatTian Cai Horse · Tian Shou HorseGap 0 = 2×0Four different year branches; the gap is set by the hour alone
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18 Sep 2003, Tiger hourGui-Wei yearLife Goat · Body PigTian Cai Tiger · Tian Shou HorseGap 4 = 2×29 Mar 1996, Rabbit hourBing-Zi yearLife Pig · Body SnakeTian Cai Pig · Tian Shou SnakeGap 6 = 2×323 Nov 1988, Dog hourWu-Chen yearLife Ox · Body RoosterTian Cai Snake · Tian Shou OxGap 8 = 20, rem. 85 Jan 1991, Rat hourGeng-Wu yearLife Rat · Body RatTian Cai Horse · Tian Shou HorseGap 0 = 2×0Four different year branches; the gap is set by the hour alone
Four sample charts: Tiger hour with Life on Goat, Body on Pig, Tian Cai on Tiger and Tian Shou on Horse, a gap of 4; Rabbit hour with Life on Pig, Body on Snake, Tian Cai on Pig and Tian Shou on Snake, a gap of 6; Dog hour with Life on Ox, Body on Rooster, Tian Cai on Snake and Tian Shou on Ox, a gap of 8; Rat hour with Life and Body both on Rat and both stars on Horse, a gap of 0.

For births in the Rat and Horse hours the two stars coincide, in the same palace on the same branch. For any other hour the gap is one of 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10 steps, always even.

Where Tian Shou lands, given the Body palace and the year

The palace name can also be looked up directly: take the name of the Body palace, add the year-branch number, and count on in the order of the names. The table uses four year branches, Rat, Rabbit, Horse and Rooster; the others follow by adding steps:

Body inRat yearRabbit yearHorse yearRooster yearLifeLifePropertyTravelChildrenWellbeingWellbeingFriendsWealthSiblingsCareerCareerHealthPartnerParentsTravelTravelChildrenLifePropertyWealthWealthSiblingsWellbeingFriendsPartnerPartnerParentsCareerHealthNames run in the order Life, Parents, Wellbeing, and so on; count forward by the year-branch number
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Body inRat yearRabbit yearHorse yearRooster yearLifeLifePropertyTravelChildrenWellbeingWellbeingFriendsWealthSiblingsCareerCareerHealthPartnerParentsTravelTravelChildrenLifePropertyWealthWealthSiblingsWellbeingFriendsPartnerPartnerParentsCareerHealthNames run in the order Life, Parents, Wellbeing, and so on; count forward by the year-branch number
A six-row, four-column table of palace names: rows are the palace holding the Body palace, columns are the Rat, Rabbit, Horse and Rooster years, and each cell is the palace holding Tian Shou; the Rat-year column simply repeats the Body palace.

The Rat-year column is the simplest: number 0, so Tian Shou sits in the Body palace. For other branches add steps; with the Body palace in Career and a Goat year, Career is number 4, adding 7 gives 11, which is Siblings, in agreement with the 2003 chart above.

  1. Fix the Body palace first

    The birth hour gives how many steps after Life the Body palace lies; then read off its name.

  2. Then the year number

    Take the year branch only once the birth date is past the lunar new year, and look up its number on the Rat-to-Pig list.

  3. Count on from Body last

    Add the year-branch number to the Body palace, find the landing point on the chart and read its name.

Try two

First

Born in the Horse hour: how do Tian Cai and Tian Shou relate?

The Horse hour is number 6 and 2×6 = 12, remainder 0, so the Body palace is the Life palace and the two stars share a palace and a branch.

Second

Body in Wealth, a Ji-Mao year: which palace holds Tian Shou?

Wealth is number 8 and Rabbit is 3; the sum is 11, which is the Siblings palace.

Another star whose landing point follows from the hour is Feng Gao; each hour later moves its branch one step forward too.

Questions readers ask next

What happens to Tian Cai and Tian Shou when the Body palace is the Life palace?

The two stars sit in the same palace on the same branch. That happens for births in the Rat and Horse hours; in the sample chart of 5 January 1991, a Rat hour, both stars are in the Travel palace on Horse.

If the birth hour moves one later, does Tian Shou move?

Yes. The year branch stays, but the Body palace moves one step forward along the branches and Tian Shou goes with it; against the Life palace the name moves two palaces ahead, the same rhythm as Feng Gao.

Does the "Shou" in the name let us read lifespan?

The star name is only a name. This site found no placement verse or entry for Tian Shou, and it writes no judgment about lifespan or health from a star name; this page covers only how the position arises.

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