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Four time layers: do not merge them into one chart
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Natal chart, luck pillar, year and month are four records with their own sources. A four-layer comparison, the year-to-month stem table and a Horse-year example keep comparison conditions apart from birth facts.

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Natal, luck, annual and monthly layers are four records, each with its own source and time range. Compare relationships across them, but never pour the later three into the birth pillars.

  • The natal chart, luck pillar, annual and monthly layers are four records with separate sources and time ranges: compare them, but never write the later three into the birth pillars.
  • A Horse year only means the natal Rat meets that year's Horse; the natal chart does not gain a Horse.
  • The monthly stem depends on the year stem: a Jia or Ji year has Bing-Yin for the Tiger month, a Yi or Geng year has Wu-Yin; the Tiger month is not always Jia-Yin.
Eighteen seconds: what each of the four layers holds, how the year stem fixes the month stem, then three self-checks.

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Reading a BaZi chart for the first time: the four pillars and the Day Master ↗

How luck pillars are derived: separate the sequence from its starting time ↗

A Horse year does not give the natal chart a Horse

Suppose a teaching record has a Rat as the day branch in the natal chart, and the year under discussion has a Horse as its branch. You can study the relationship between the natal Rat and the annual Horse. You cannot write that this person was born with Rat and Horse in the birth pillars. What was added is a comparison condition, not a birth fact.

Natal, luck, annual and monthly layers stacked in turn, each with its own source and time range, not merged into one set of birth pillars.Open the full-size diagram

Layer sketch: four layers, each with its own source and time range. Keep the layers when comparing; do not write the later three into the birth pillars.

What you may writeNatal daybranchRatmeetsYear inquestionHorsewritten asRelationRat and HorseWhat you may not writeBirth pillarsRat and Horse?Natal chartgains a Horse?What was added is a comparison condition, not a birth fact
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What you may writeNatal daybranchRatmeetsYear inquestionHorsewritten asRelationRat and HorseWhat you may not writeBirth pillarsRat and Horse?Natal chartgains a Horse?What was added is a comparison condition, not a birth fact
You may write: the natal day branch is Rat, the year in question is Horse, compare Rat and Horse. You may not write: the birth pillars contain Rat and Horse, or the natal chart gains a Horse.

Four records, each with its own time

The luck pillar, the annual pillar and the monthly pillar are references at other time scales. Reading all four together means comparing relationships while keeping each source attached, not pouring every symbol into one bag.

Natalbirth pillarsPillar positionsBirth dataCalendar basisLuckpersonal pillarThe pillarHow it startsStart and endAnnuala chosen yearYear pairYear boundaryMonthlya BaZi monthMonth pairSolar termsTime basisSources and fields differ, so record them separately
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Natalbirth pillarsPillar positionsBirth dataCalendar basisLuckpersonal pillarThe pillarHow it startsStart and endAnnuala chosen yearYear pairYear boundaryMonthlya BaZi monthMonth pairSolar termsTime basisSources and fields differ, so record them separately
The four layers and the fields to keep: natal, pillar positions, birth data, calendar basis; luck, the pillar, how it starts, start and end; annual, the year pair and boundary; monthly, the month pair, solar terms and time basis.

For how the luck sequence and starting time are worked out, see how luck pillars are derived. Before comparing two timetables, line up these three definitions:

Luck pillar

Usually ten years each

But not aligned with everyone's tenth, twentieth or thirtieth birthday; the start has to be looked up.

Year

The year boundary

Confirm that both sides change year at the same moment.

Month

Bounded by a solar-term moment

In a method using the twelve sectional solar terms, the boundary is a specific moment, not the Gregorian first or the lunar first.

The monthly stem depends on the year

The Tiger month does not always carry the same stem. The Hong Kong Observatory's year-stem and month-stem table shows the pattern, with each pair of year stems sharing one starting point.

Year stemTiger monthRabbit monthJia/JiBing-YinDing-MaoYi/GengWu-YinJi-MaoBing/XinGeng-YinXin-MaoDing/RenRen-YinGui-MaoWu/GuiJia-YinYi-MaoEach pair of year stems shares one starting point
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Year stemTiger monthRabbit monthJia/JiBing-YinDing-MaoYi/GengWu-YinJi-MaoBing/XinGeng-YinXin-MaoDing/RenRen-YinGui-MaoWu/GuiJia-YinYi-MaoEach pair of year stems shares one starting point
Monthly stems for the Tiger and Rabbit months by year stem: Jia or Ji, Bing-Yin and Ding-Mao; Yi or Geng, Wu-Yin and Ji-Mao; Bing or Xin, Geng-Yin and Xin-Mao; Ding or Ren, Ren-Yin and Gui-Mao; Wu or Gui, Jia-Yin and Yi-Mao.

Work through two years:

Jia-Wu yearYear stemJialook upTiger monthBing-YinYi-Wei yearYear stemYilook upTiger monthWu-YinSame branch Tiger, different monthly stem
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Jia-Wu yearYear stemJialook upTiger monthBing-YinYi-Wei yearYear stemYilook upTiger monthWu-YinSame branch Tiger, different monthly stem
In a Jia-Wu year the Tiger month is Bing-Yin; in a Yi-Wei year it is Wu-Yin. The branch is the same Tiger but the monthly stem differs.

How the classics treat timing: return to the chart, keep stems and branches apart

Zi Ping Zhen Quan, in its chapter on luck, stresses reading the luck pillar together with the natal arrangement. It lists cases that look favorable but are affected by the natal relationships, and cases that look unfavorable but have another combination. It also separates stems from branches even when they share a broad phase, so a reader should not settle for a crude label such as "a Fire period" or "a Water period".

Stemse.g. Yang Fire, Yin FireBoth FireMay involve supporting the Day MasterRead against the Day MasterBranchese.g. Snake, HorseBoth FireMay involve a clashRead against the natal branchesBoth are "Fire", yet they connect to the chart differently
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Stemse.g. Yang Fire, Yin FireBoth FireMay involve supporting the Day MasterRead against the Day MasterBranchese.g. Snake, HorseBoth FireMay involve a clashRead against the natal branchesBoth are "Fire", yet they connect to the chart differently
Both are Fire, but Yang and Yin Fire are stems and may involve supporting the Day Master, while Snake and Horse are branches and may involve a clash. Squeezing them into "one more Fire" drops the path the argument was following.

Three oversimplifications

The natal chart decides everything

Years and months are mere background

The natal chart is the start of the argument, not the only answer.

The year decides everything

A year rewrites birth facts

A year is one time condition and does not rewrite birth facts.

A month always overturns the luck pillar

Finer means more accurate

Finer does not mean more accurate, and does not automatically outrank the luck pillar.

This is a textual basis for reading in layers, not a guarantee about any person's fortune. Different methods order the layers differently; a method should state its emphasis and conditions, not replace actual relationships with one universal percentage table.

For every cross-layer relationship, name which layer meets which

Back to the Rat and the Horse: say which natal pillar holds the Rat, which year holds the Horse, and whether a luck pillar or month takes part.

  1. Which layer meets which

    Name the natal pillar that holds the stem, and the year and month it meets.

  2. What the key relationship is

    Generating, controlling, combining or clashing, and where it acts.

  3. What data is missing

    Where data is missing, hold the judgment instead of filling it in.

Horse in two different monthsMonth window 1HorseMonth window 2HorseNot additivetwo natal HorsesTwo time windows are two separate records
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Horse in two different monthsMonth window 1HorseMonth window 2HorseNot additivetwo natal HorsesTwo time windows are two separate records
A Horse appearing in two different months is a record in each of two time windows; it cannot be added up into two Horses in the natal chart.

A finer time unit does not mean a more accurate prediction. A monthly pillar helps narrow the interval under discussion, but one stem cannot pin an event to a single day; the more specific the date, the more extra evidence it needs. How relationships are recognized and how their effects are judged is covered in clashes, punishments, harms and destruction.

Questions readers ask next

Does a stem that appears in a year count as already in the natal chart?

No. The year is another time layer. You can study its relationship with the natal chart, but what it adds is a comparison condition, not a birth fact.

Is the monthly stem fixed?

No. For the same Tiger month the stem depends on the year stem. Each pair of year stems shares one starting point, so a new year brings new monthly stems.

Does a finer time layer make a prediction more accurate?

No. A month helps narrow the interval under discussion, but one stem cannot place an event on one day. The more specific the date, the more extra evidence it needs, and real choices and actions are not replaced by symbols.

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  1. 子平真詮・二十五、論行運 ↗
  2. 香港天文台:天干和地支,年干與月干對照表 ↗

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