Ju Men: the entry audit and the Dragon-Dog clash
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Ju Men is fourth in the Tian Fu group and Yin. Its six entry lines checked against the grade table, why Dragon and Dog disagree, one fixed chart for "stone hiding jade", and which named partners can meet it.
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Ju Men is fourth in the Tian Fu group; five of its six entry lines in juan 2 match the grade table and only Dragon-Dog differs, and the pattern "stone hiding jade" turns into one fixed layout, while some of the book's named partners can meet it and some cannot.
- Checking the entry, the grade table and the engine table cell by cell, only Dragon and Dog disagree for Ju Men: the entry says Ping, the table and the engine say Xian.
- "Stone hiding jade" needs Ju Men on Life at Rat or Horse, and both Zi Wei landings give the same palace layout: Tian Ji in Travel, Tai Yang in Career, Zi Wei with Po Jun in Health.
- For the book's "meeting the emperor" and "meeting Qi Sha" lines, the placement verse never puts Zi Wei or Qi Sha in Ju Men's palace, opposite it, or on its trine.

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The fourteen major stars: learn the roster and its structure ↗
Six entry lines, and five of them match
Ju Men (巨门) is the fourth of the eight Tian Fu-group stars, three cells after Tian Fu. The engine's star table records it as Earth and Yin; the book writes Water, and the juan 1 reply adds "Water and Metal". The last passage of the juan 2 Ju Men entry splits the twelve branches into six lines, each giving a grade and sometimes a co-resident star:
Audit table: the entry is the closing passage of the juan 2 Ju Men section, grades come from the juan 2 grade table, and co-resident stars follow from the placement verse and were checked on iztro charts.
Put those six lines beside the grade table and the engine's co-resident stars and check them one by one. Rat and Horse say Wang, and the table has Rat and Horse both Wang. Rabbit and Rooster say Miao and "sharing with Tian Ji", and the table has both Miao, while on the chart those two cells do put Ju Men with Tian Ji. Tiger and Monkey say Miao and "sharing with Tai Yang", which also checks out. Snake and Pig say "Wang palace, guarding alone", and the table has both Wang with Ju Men alone on the chart. Ox and Goat say Bu, the same as the table. Five of six lines agree, and the only one that does not is Dragon and Dog.
The partners the entry leaves unwritten are still there on the chart. On the three pairs Rat-Horse, Dragon-Dog and Snake-Pig Ju Men sits alone with its partner in the opposite palace (Tian Ji opposite Rat and Horse, Tian Tong opposite Dragon and Dog, Tai Yang opposite Snake and Pig), and on Ox and Goat it shares with Tian Tong. The book leaves that half unwritten; it comes from counting positions and holds on every chart. How the grade table as a whole is read is in brightness levels.
Dragon and Dog: the entry says Ping, the table and two verses say Xian
The Dragon-Dog line of the entry reads:
Dragon and Dog palaces: even and calm.
Yet the grade table has Dragon and Dog as Xian, and the Gu Sui Fu (斗數骨髓賦) in juan 1 touches these two cells in two lines:
Ju Men on Dragon and Dog is sunken ground; for a Xin-year person the lucky change makes its stipend shine.
The other line, "Dragon and Dog should dislike the sunken Ju Men", is in the same ode. Counting the engine's star table as well, the record for Dragon and Dog stands like this:
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The first line carries a second condition: "a Xin-year person", someone born in a Xin year, whose birth-year transformation turns Ju Men into the Lu one (iztro's Xin transformations are Ju Men Lu, Tai Yang Quan, Wen Qu Ke and Wen Chang Ji). The Xian cell in the table does not carry that condition, so the two wordings for one cell are an unconditional cell and a line with a birth-year stem attached. Neither overturns the other; when you give the grade, say which one you are citing. How the birth-year transformations are looked up is in birth-year transformations.
Stone hiding jade: turning the pattern name into one chart
Juan 1 names "the Life palace at Rat or Horse meeting Ju Men" as stone hiding jade:
On the pattern stone hiding jade: the Life palace on Rat or Horse, meeting Ju Men.
That is a positional condition and can be converted into a chart. Ju Men sits three cells after Tian Fu, so it lands on Rat when Zi Wei is on Goat and on Horse when Zi Wei is on Ox. Ask also that the Life palace share Ju Men's branch and Life falls on Rat or Horse. Cast the twelve palaces for both cases and the layout is identical, with only the branches differing:
| Palace | Life at Rat (Zi Wei on Goat) | Life at Horse (Zi Wei on Ox) | Main stars in the palace |
|---|---|---|---|
| Life | Rat | Horse | Ju Men |
| Siblings | Pig | Snake | Lian Zhen, Tan Lang |
| Partner | Dog | Dragon | Tai Yin |
| Children | Rooster | Rabbit | Tian Fu |
| Wealth | Monkey | Tiger | empty |
| Health | Goat | Ox | Zi Wei, Po Jun |
| Travel | Horse | Rat | Tian Ji |
| Friends | Snake | Pig | empty |
| Career | Dragon | Dog | Tai Yang |
| Property | Rabbit | Rooster | Wu Qu, Qi Sha |
| Wellbeing | Tiger | Monkey | Tian Tong, Tian Liang |
| Parents | Ox | Goat | Tian Xiang |
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The verse adds half a line, "and still gets the lucky stars shining from the three sides". That is a second layer: whether the Ke and Lu transformations land in the Life palace's four-way set has to be worked out again from the birth-year transformations and is not part of this layout of main stars. The one thing that can be said first is that any chart meeting the positional condition has a single layout of main stars.
The twelve-palace list: indexed by palace
The juan 1 reply on Ju Men opens with the star's nature and then turns into a list, one item per palace, in exactly the order of the twelve palaces:
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Each item ends in a judgment on that palace, and those judgments are not quoted here. What is worth keeping is the way the list is indexed: the grade table is indexed by branch, the entry by pairs of branches, and this list by palace. To use it, you first need to know which palace Ju Men lands in on the chart.
Find the branch of Ju Men first
Zi Wei gives Tian Fu, and three cells after Tian Fu is Ju Men; for example Zi Wei on Rat puts Tian Fu on Dragon and Ju Men on Goat.
Then count back from Life to Ju Men
Palaces are counted from Life against the branch order; with Life on Tiger and Ju Men on Goat, Goat is the eighth palace, Friends, which the book calls "servants".
Take that item from the list and check the grade table separately
The list item answers "in this palace", the grade table answers "on this branch"; they are two questions and are looked up separately.
Named partners: can they meet Ju Men on a chart?
On Ju Men the book names several partners: Master Xiyi writes "meeting Tai Yang, good and bad even" and "meeting Qi Sha, injury", the Gu Sui Fu writes "Ju Men and Tian Ji sharing a palace", and a line in the juan 1 list of sunken-star patterns reads "Dragon palace, Ju Men with Zi Wei". Using the placement verse, cast the twelve Zi Wei landings and count how often Ju Men shares a palace with, faces, or forms a trine with each of these stars:
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Tai Yang and Tian Ji can both share a palace with Ju Men: Tian Ji on Rabbit and Rooster, Tai Yang on Tiger and Monkey. Zi Wei and Qi Sha never do. The closest Zi Wei gets is a neighboring cell, in four of the landings (two on each side), and Qi Sha always stands three cells away from it. What "sharing" and "meeting" mean in the book is not spelled out, so only the positions that can be checked are listed here: by this verse there is no chart with "Dragon palace, Ju Men with Zi Wei" sharing a palace.
Two cross-check problems
Ju Men on Dog: what does the entry say and what does the table say? Who shares the palace and who is opposite?
The entry says Ping and the table says Xian; Ju Men is alone and Tian Tong is opposite.
Zi Wei on Goat, Life on Rat: which main star is in Career, and which in Travel?
Tai Yang is in Career and Tian Ji in Travel; Ju Men sits in the Life palace on Rat.
Before Ju Men comes Tan Lang, and after it comes Tian Xiang.
Questions readers ask next
Ju Men "turns into darkness". Does that make it a bad star?
"Darkness" is the qi title, listed alongside "prosperity", "seal" and "waste" in the same column. The grade comes from the table: Ju Men has four Wang, four Miao, two Bu and two Xian cells, with no grade in the majority. Where it lands and who shares the palace are what the reading rests on.
The entry says Ping on Dragon and Dog while the table says Xian. Which is right?
Both are records in the book, and the engine takes the table's Xian. Cite them apart: "the grade table has Xian, the entry says Ping". Do not average them into one grade, and do not quote only one.
Is there only one chart for "stone hiding jade"?
Only one palace layout: Ju Men in Life, Lian Zhen and Tan Lang in Siblings, Tai Yin in Partner, Tian Fu in Children, Zi Wei and Po Jun in Health, Tian Ji in Travel, Tai Yang in Career, Wu Qu and Qi Sha in Property, Tian Tong and Tian Liang in Wellbeing, Tian Xiang in Parents. Zi Wei on Ox with Life on Horse, or Zi Wei on Goat with Life on Rat, differ only in branches.
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Tan Lang (贪狼): Landings Tied to Zi Wei, Wu Qu or Lian Zhen, Water or Wood, Life Ruler ↗
Tian Xiang (天相): Two Kinds of "Fifth", Who Faces Sunken Cells, and a Missing Hua ↗


